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The Apostle The Black Priests 424	Posted - 2011.10.16 21:34:00 - [1] - Quote The Mittani wrote: Renan Ruivo wrote: The problem i have with Mittani as the head of the CSM is that he is a high-profile alliance leader, and i doubt that he would agree with changes for the sake of balance, if said changes were to somehow interfere with his own alliance, or disagree with changes that would affect his enemies more than it would his own ally. He cannot have an impartial opinion on most subjects he deals with as a CSM member. But unfortunatly that is in the nature of the CSM election. Besides being chairman doesnt mean he gets the final word, only that he gets to pass it on. This CSM has some very good members, like seleene and white tree, and i trust their judgement. This is foolish and uninformed. Goonswarm has one of the largest supercap fleets in the game, as well as some of the largest technetium holdings. I've vehemently advocated for nerfing both, loudly and in public. You're welcome to spew your tinfoil theories though. Yes of course. By building and maintaining a supercap fleet (derived from tech moons) and laughing at how you can run an ice denial campaign with funds derived from the tech moons. In fact, I'm quite curious why you are now suddenly defending your pitiful role? You're on a self-prophesing and cheap ego trip. I know it, you know it. So why bother? You even described yourself as "a manipulative bastard". It's much closer to the truth than even you realise and worse, your sheep don't even know it. The perfect ruse..... You're full of it Mittens... But it's a game after all yeah..... About ******* time you learned that it's not just yours. Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. WTB: An Austrian kangaroo!
The Apostle The Black Priests 424	Posted - 2011.10.16 21:45:00 - [2] - Quote Akirei Scytale wrote: Brooks Puuntai wrote: People seem really butt hurt over Mittani and Goons. Every week its something new. apparently all you have to do is lightly poke highsec (as a whole) and it turns into literally a bottomless fountain of tears. you should try it. And the only reason Test is even involved is because G()ns would kick you clean out of Fountain if you do not comply with their demands. How very democratic.... You guys have got strength and some really good people and use it only to follow the Pied Piper. Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. WTB: An Austrian kangaroo!
The Apostle The Black Priests 426	Posted - 2011.10.16 22:40:00 - [3] - Quote Renan Ruivo wrote: Test kicked someone? I though you guys were an alliance made of rejects from other alliances.. Not that i have anything against that though.. i even thought about going there if/when i get booted from my own because i don't have a filter between my brain and my mouth. And i don't want one. Yeah, I remember doing an op with testies where we had to go kill some "strategic tower" in lowsec. We weren't told it was an E115 tower until we got there and saw it. It was purely a payback op if ever. 30 something jumps to pop some POS got a few people annoyed I can tell ya. Then we got opped to do another tower, same place, apparently also owned by E115, turns out intel ****** up so we shot someone elses tower instead. When back on the timer and got totally owned by Rooks and Kings. Whatever happened between E115 and test sure pissed off Test. I still laugh about it... Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. WTB: An Austrian kangaroo!
The Apostle The Black Priests 428	Posted - 2011.10.17 01:04:00 - [4] - Quote Headerman wrote: Well just FYI, i got an extra large Latte with 2 sweeteners, and a Friand. I would upload a pic of both if i had a usb cable for my fone :( I got the coffee from a coffee shop that is a front for Scientologists, so apologies in advance for any bad postings that may result from some freely added hallucinagens Thought for the day while you drink that coffee.. Is The Mittani really Xenu? Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. WTB: An Austrian kangaroo!
The Apostle The Black Priests 428	Posted - 2011.10.17 01:44:00 - [5] - Quote Weaselior wrote: seriously, the people who run for the csm are such worthless nobodies that you can't expect people to do anything but vote for the name they recognize meanwhile, every worthless pubbie thinks they can ride 'down with goons' to victory only increasing the vote total of the goon reps while diffusing the highsec vote into nothing More fool you. The highsec vote is already nothing. Always has been and anybody with half a brain knows why. It's also well known that one of the commonest methods of vote diffusion/indifference is by belittling/berating anybody that disagrees with the "accepted norm"... Unfortunately in Eve the "accepted norm" is a very obvious and polarised view vastly over represented by a minority. So when any highseccer/carebear (who is in fact a majority player but represented as a minority) even DARES to question the status quo is nailed by that very minority and his view/s become allied against 'the norm" by default. Me thinks there's only one person that knows EXACTLY how this works. Dare you to guess who that is? Bah, that's way too deep for you man so just go back to killing Mackinaws and keep calling it "the norm". idgaf Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. WTB: An Austrian kangaroo!
The Apostle The Black Priests 428	Posted - 2011.10.17 01:51:00 - [6] - Quote Renan Ruivo wrote: The Apostle wrote: Weaselior wrote: seriously, the people who run for the csm are such worthless nobodies that you can't expect people to do anything but vote for the name they recognize meanwhile, every worthless pubbie thinks they can ride 'down with goons' to victory only increasing the vote total of the goon reps while diffusing the highsec vote into nothing More fool you. The highsec vote is already nothing. Always has been and anybody with half a brain knows why. It's also well known that one of the commonest methods of vote diffusion/indifference is by belittling/berating anybody that disagrees with the "accepted norm"... Unfortunately in Eve the "accepted norm" is a very obvious and polarised view vastly over represented by a minority. So when any highseccer/carebear (who is in fact a majority player but represented as a minority) even DARES to question the status quo is nailed by that very minority and his view/s become allied against 'the norm" by default. Me thinks there's only one person that knows EXACTLY how this works. Dare you to guess who that is? Bah, that's way too deep for you man so just go back to killing Mackinaws and keep calling it "the norm". idgaf You. How can you know that theres only one person who knows something, and not know about that something yourself? Therefore by your own statement that one is you!? Yeah. I assumed you'd accept that "apart from me" was what I meant.... There's probably others too but they ain't come forward..... Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. WTB: An Austrian kangaroo!
The Apostle The Black Priests 429	Posted - 2011.10.17 02:36:00 - [7] - Quote Comrade Commizzar wrote: What is this?? Are some of the Peasants awaking to the state of their serfdom under the oppression of their Feudal Lords?? Well to the OP I say "Welcome to the real world." However, having preached for some years the truth of the economic slavery under which most of you peons exist (due entirely to your ignorance and indifference for the most part I might add) I must warn you that unless YOU DO SOMETHING TO UNITE THE WORKER'S OPPOSITION to said Overlords... NOTHING WILL COME OF IT... You are as they say "The sounding of brass cymbals in the wind.." On the other hand organize, educate, motivate, and lead the proletariat masses to take up their hammers and scythes and... SLIT THE THROATS OF THEIR MASTERS ! and maybe you will start something then... Comrade Commisar, we have a small problem. The Mittani likens himself, in a fashion, to Stalin (while he quotes Karl Marx - which is quite disturbing). In order for you to be as effective in the Rise of the Peasants, you too must also become Stalinesque.... But we need less pointless deaths. Not more. Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. WTB: An Austrian kangaroo!
The Apostle The Black Priests 429	Posted - 2011.10.17 03:06:00 - [8] - Quote Celery Man wrote: Just Another Toon wrote: Alara IonStorm wrote: Scamming and Ganking are allowed. If you trust someone because of a Title you should stop doing that immediately. Being an A$$hole is not grounds for removal from office, just ask any elected official anywhere at anytime. If you do not like him then ether find a real crime that is against the rules and provide evidence or wait till his term expires and vote him out next term. YOU ARE MISSING THE POINT It is a problem when you hold a position of trust...they want to scam fine BUT THEY STEP DOWN FROM CSM - SIMPLE AS YOU are missing the point. I voted for the mittani and if he scammed me out of my fortune and burnt all that I owned in this game to dust, i would vote for him once again and with more passion than the first time. I want someone in charge of the CSM who understands the game better than me, and by your whole point of view its clear you really really REALLY do not understand this game. Its Eve ffs... we came here to get away from players like you. You would?! And what's with "we" came here - who do YOU represent? You mean "we" should think like you do? This merely proves that Darwinism in Eve is just a mere concept. Not a practise. "I" came here to get away from players like "you" - I was told the Eve playerbase had a higher IQ than the average game! Obviously not. Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. WTB: An Austrian kangaroo!
The Apostle The Black Priests 429	Posted - 2011.10.17 03:53:00 - [9] - Quote Sir Substance wrote: The Apostle wrote: You would?! And what's with "we" came here - who do YOU represent? You mean "we" should think like you do? This merely proves that Darwinism in Eve is just a mere concept. Not a practise. "I" came here to get away from players like "you" - I was told the Eve playerbase had a higher IQ than the average game! Obviously not. Darwinism doesn't exist in any setting controlled by sentient beings capable of manipulating their environment. In eve, people work to ruin each other. Thats very different from natural selection. Don't use words you don't understand around here, you'll get called out on it. I voted for mittens, and I think he's doing a well enough job as a CSM member, which is why I voted for him in the first place. I don't have a problem with his in game machinations, its the right of any eve player to plot and scheme using any tools available to them. If he can use the CSM title to gain an in game advantage without breaking the terms of the CSM agreement, more power to him. I suppose I am referring to the branch of Darwinism called "survival of the fittest". Poster I was referring to stated if he got scammed and burned to the ground he'd still vote for the doer of such evils Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. WTB: An Austrian kangaroo!
The Apostle The Black Priests 429	Posted - 2011.10.17 05:25:00 - [10] - Quote Xython wrote: Darius III wrote: I concur with OP. What Mittani has done, as chairman no less, clearly shows he doesnt take his position seriously and should be voted out. +1 This is rich coming from someone who didn't respect his CSM position enough to honor the NDA he signed when taking up said position. (For those not in the know, cute little cuddly wuddly Darius III here was caught leaking CSM information to his friend Riverini for River's Eve news tabloid, EN24. He's also in the midst of a losing war against Goonswarm, and thus has a confirmed and rather obvious bias.) This thread, and all the others like it, show the disgusting disparity between the fat afk botting pubbies that make up the backbone of highsec and the people in nullsec who actually enjoy the game enough to pay attention to it. They didn't have a problem with Mittani and Goons as long as we were the dirty hippies "over there". The second we came to highsec to remind them they're in a sandbox pvp game, welp, OFF WITH HIS HEAD. Pathetic. I think you'll find most people wanted done with Mittens (and the whole CSM for that matter) prior to "The Great Interdiction".... The handling of "The Great NeX Debacle" and "The Jita Blockade" and the subsequent "Give Us the Credit" cry smacked of cheap and dirty politics. Fn hypocrites one and all. This new round of "** This Game For Everybody Who Doesn't Lick The Mittani's Bits" coming from "The G&&ns" is just more reason to send you and your buddies back into the proverbial cesspot you sprang from. And please, forgive those players who are in desperate need of playing "The Game" the way THEY want, not the way YOU want... You are but a small percentage of the total population in Eve so I'll be **** if you have the right to dictate my style of play or that of any others. And don't you dare give me 'sandbox" this or "sandbox" that! Everything The CSM, in particular The Mittani has done is try to CHANGE the sandbox because it's "Not Fair", "Unbalanced" etc.... The very changes being sought - and granted - gave rise to the very strength and wealth that The G)(ns now use to bash other players senseless in the name of "fun"... We just need CCP to wake up to this self-justifying, bullying and flooding crap coming from the G^^ns. Ingame, on forums.... It's all over... And it's getting really fn tiresome. Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. WTB: An Austrian kangaroo!
The Apostle The Black Priests 429	Posted - 2011.10.17 05:38:00 - [11] - Quote Trainwreck McGee wrote: I am killin an ice miner everytime someone QQ's about Goons Seriously who ******* cares if Goons are killing ice bots and ice zombies? The ice zombies care. More to the point, why do YOU care if a player decides to be an ice zombie anyway? Wtf does that have to do with you? You payin' his subs or what? Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. WTB: An Austrian kangaroo!
The Apostle The Black Priests 429	Posted - 2011.10.17 05:47:00 - [12] - Quote Renan Ruivo wrote: Don't look now, but looks like the "remove mittani from CSM" thread is about to reach "AFK Cloaking" thread proportions.. These topics don't start and live by themselves. There is, from what I can see, a true sense of rage starting to be shown here and it needs to be recognised for what it is - and more importanly why. Every topic comes back to the same conclusions. G&&ns are ******* the game, in whatever method, and people have had enough. Even if you took some the kissGoon commentary into account (as serious commentary), CCP must surely see that the player base is starting to get a mite pissed off with it all. They can allow the status quo at their peril I say.... Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. WTB: An Austrian kangaroo!
The Apostle The Black Priests 429	Posted - 2011.10.17 05:55:00 - [13] - Quote Morganta wrote: seriously though, this is what you get with a 8+ year old game with no fundamental limits to how powerful an individual or corp can get. that's how it works, that's eve if you were here then and were still here now I'd bet you would be singing another tune, because you would be one of the power elite oh, and... sandbox this and sandbox that Yet another "this is Eve" commentary supporting the very people seeking to change the game while calling anyone else looking to change the status quo as a whiner, carebear, pubbie or whatever where it doesn't suit YOU. What if I say let's make suicide ganking outlawed in highsec. Make it bannable even. Would it get support? Nope. "This is Eve man, It's a sandbox".... It's all hypocritical BS. Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. WTB: An Austrian kangaroo!
The Apostle The Black Priests 429	Posted - 2011.10.17 06:04:00 - [14] - Quote Poetic Stanziel wrote: The Apostle wrote: What if I say let's make suicide ganking outlawed in highsec. Make it bannable even. Would it get support? Nope. "This is Eve man, It's a sandbox".... Were you being facetious? Or do you actually support banning/eliminating suicide ganking from highsec? What does it matter? Until either CCP realises what's happening or a highseccer can get into the CSM, it's a "non-issue" accordingly. But, there a few rumours about making Concord AI smarter. Can only be one reason for that..... Way overdue. There, I said it And I'm not even a carebear... I just like seeing small guys get a fair crack of the whip. Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. WTB: An Austrian kangaroo!
The Apostle The Black Priests 429	Posted - 2011.10.17 06:22:00 - [15] - Quote Malcanis wrote: The Apostle wrote: Poetic Stanziel wrote: The Apostle wrote: What if I say let's make suicide ganking outlawed in highsec. Make it bannable even. Would it get support? Nope. "This is Eve man, It's a sandbox".... Were you being facetious? Or do you actually support banning/eliminating suicide ganking from highsec? What does it matter? Until either CCP realises what's happening or a highseccer can get into the CSM, it's a "non-issue" accordingly. But, there a few rumours about making Concord AI smarter. Can only be one reason for that..... Way overdue. There, I said it And I'm not even a carebear... I just like seeing small guys get a fair crack of the whip. You make it sound like this is anything to do with the CSM. The CSM has had nothing to do with the ice campaign. Let's assume that the CSM had 3 "hi-sec" representatives; what would be different about the ice campaign? What if, just what if, the CSM were highly represented by highseccers? You think the rules on ganking would remain the same? Really? Half the justification for highsec ganking is idealogical BS.... Take out cheap targets and half the wannabe warriors would have to actually fight to get a kill. Can't have that 'ey? Cowards all. Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. WTB: An Austrian kangaroo!
The Apostle The Black Priests 429	Posted - 2011.10.17 06:29:00 - [16] - Quote Chopper Rollins wrote: "What if I say let's make suicide ganking outlawed in highsec. Make it bannable even." High sec will be such a yawnfest that all this would do is make the jump to low sec or 0.0 look even more horrifying to those without a corp backing / training them. Seriously, there are 4 yr old mission runners in high sec that think lowsec gates make your ship asplode. And what of it? There are thousands of targets in low/wh and 0.0 for all the PvP ever wanted. Quote: Quote: "I just like seeing small guys get a fair crack of the whip." That's an Australian idea derived from the British idea of fair play. Both lovely ideas from places where 'kick the weak' is the reality. Good real-life values would suck all the adventure out of eve. Not really mate. My $15 a month is as good as your $15 a month. All I'm saying is give Lil' Jack Horner a corner and let the rest of Eve have the whole universe. If Jack wants to get greedy and leave his corner for extra custard, that's his problem then. Make low and 0.0 more attractive, make high safe (but with less isk potential) and people will leave in droves to get rich ELSEWHERE. Even Ned Kelly didn't live in Melbourne. Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. WTB: An Austrian kangaroo!
The Apostle The Black Priests 429	Posted - 2011.10.17 06:31:00 - [17] - Quote Goddess Ishtar wrote: The Apostle wrote: What if, just what if, the CSM were highly represented by highseccers? You think the rules on ganking would remain the same? Haha you think the CSM makes the rules lol. Funnily enough, nope. But there is such a thing as lobbying. Let's not forget though G%%n, the CSM sure rushed in to take the credit when the "the rules" got changed. How soon we forget. Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. WTB: An Austrian kangaroo!
The Apostle The Black Priests 429	Posted - 2011.10.17 06:32:00 - [18] - Quote Goddess Ishtar wrote: The Apostle wrote: Every topic comes back to the same conclusions. G&&ns are ******* the game, in whatever method, and people have had enough. There are way more people cheering us on than there are calling for us to be banned. We do it for the fans. Actually I think you'll find there's far more people who dgaf. That can be changed. You guys just make it easier. Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. WTB: An Austrian kangaroo!
The Apostle The Black Priests 430	Posted - 2011.10.17 06:40:00 - [19] - Quote Malcanis wrote: "OK so one group of EVE players is fighting another group of EVE players, why should we see this as a problem?" Fight? Where? Oh... Sorry. You mean the massive highly funded 0.0 alliances bashing individual players senseless and using "bots" and "economics" as justification? Sorry. Yes. That "fight". My bad. Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. WTB: An Austrian kangaroo!
The Apostle The Black Priests 430	Posted - 2011.10.17 06:44:00 - [20] - Quote Masamune Dekoro wrote: The Apostle wrote: Even Ned Kelly didn't live in Melbourne. As a proud Australia, I must humbly ask WTF does this even mean. Ned Kelly. An Australian "hero" by history but an outlaw in life. He didn't go to the capital of Victoria to get his thrills (analogy highsec). He did it in "the badlands" of the goldfields (analogy 0.0). A real fighter... Not some dimwit standing on the street shooting his mouth off with 100 mates to back him up (analogy G&&ns). Did that help Aussie? Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. WTB: An Austrian kangaroo!
The Apostle The Black Priests 430	Posted - 2011.10.17 06:57:00 - [21] - Quote Goddess Ishtar wrote: The Apostle wrote: Malcanis wrote: "OK so one group of EVE players is fighting another group of EVE players, why should we see this as a problem?" Fight? Where? Oh... Sorry. You mean the massive highly funded 0.0 alliances bashing individual players senseless and using "bots" and "economics" as justification? Sorry. Yes. That "fight". My bad. Other than posting about it (often and badly) what are you doing to protect the poor indy players? There are many ways G##n. But 'cos you guys are mostly all mouth and no brains ya wouldn't understand even if it came up and bit ya on the ass. Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. WTB: An Austrian kangaroo!
The Apostle The Black Priests 430	Posted - 2011.10.17 10:19:00 - [22] - Quote This thread is ****** now. Tippia is here with "where", "what", "how" and "why" for the next 3 fn pages. Enjoy. I'll see ya'll tomorrow. Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. WTB: An Austrian kangaroo!
The Apostle The Black Priests 471	Posted - 2011.10.18 01:44:00 - [23] - Quote OP. I dislike Mittens for being in charge of G**nsville. My reasons have been stated. I dislike Mittens for doing what he has/has not done on the CSM. My reasons have also been stated. Whether people agree with me or not is just part of the fun. But I have never, and never will accuse Mittens of using his role to do things that are NOT allowed in game. Arguing an "ethical" standpoint where the two roles might intersect is fine but pointless; I know, I've tried Regardless, The Mittani has to be "ethical" in RL to deal with CCP as much as he can be who he damn well pleases in game. There IS a difference. I can't support your post or it's reasoning even if it means missing out on an opportunity at pissing off the G&&ns.... Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. WTB: An Austrian kangaroo!

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